14:04:20 From Kate Brumby Ellis : Poet but not sonnet 14:04:59 From Live Art Local : IF anybody requires closed captioning please do tell me in the chat and I will make sure we provide that 14:05:26 From lindak : Yes please that would be helpful 14:05:43 From Live Art Local : ok bare me with a second 14:07:23 From Kate Brumby Ellis : please pop link to web page in the chat 14:08:21 From Timothy Allsop : What do we do with the objects 14:08:45 From Sarah Bower : Timothy, for now just jot down two or three words about each, thinking h 14:08:59 From Stevie Quick : suggest what feelings, sense they invoke 14:09:01 From Gillian Westwater : Do we write about all 14 objects or just some? 14:09:03 From Sarah Bower : about how they look, feel, sound, smell etc. 14:09:05 From Live Art Local : our closed captioning link has disappeared from our end … not good, Would you be happy for me to transcribe into the chat rather than you fall behind with me trying to sort it? 14:10:18 From ABC : what are sonnets? just to understand the difference between sonets and other forms of poetry. 14:10:37 From ABC : sonnets* 14:10:49 From Sarah Bower : ABC, we will be defining a sonnet as we go through. For now, it’s a 14 line poem 14:11:50 From ABC : ok, thanks 14:14:22 From lindak : To Beth - I’m managing ok but just missed the last instruction- it will help if everyone else was muted 14:14:25 From Live Art Local : For the next stage think about the feelings the object evokes in you, try and think about the mood it evokes, what it means to you, if it doesn't have any obvious meaning for you think about the meanings it has to you in regard to why you picked it for today's session 14:14:33 From lindak : thanks 14:15:02 From Live Art Local : do not worry linda I will do as much as I can via chat … there is about 3 minutes left on this 14:15:14 From Live Art Local : are. even 14:16:22 From Live Art Local : If you are not asking a question of Sarah can you please mute as it makes it harder for some of our participants with hearing issues. thank you 14:17:14 From Live Art Local : Jack Timothy no, could you please mute if you're not asking a question, thank you lovelies 14:18:39 From Live Art Local : Next stage: take the list of words you've got and try to form 14 sentences, try to produce something that has the movement and progression of a sentence 14:19:57 From Live Art Local : sentences do not have to be perfect grammatical sentences, just follow the flow/ progression of a sentence 14:21:00 From Jack Timothy noah : We have only 2 things we have described 14:21:40 From Sarah Bower : To complete the exercise you will need 14 lines so may need to find more to say about your two objects 14:22:26 From ABC : does each of those 14 lines need to be about a different object? Or can we describe one object in 2-3 lines? 14:22:55 From Live Art Local : If anybody would like the chat text let me know and I will send, maybe Jack and Timothy your mum might like it so you can spend more time later if you need it 14:23:24 From ABC : Yes please. That will be helpful! 14:23:55 From Live Art Local : I think Sarah would prefer them to be about each object ABC 14:24:08 From Live Art Local : there is about one more minute left 14:24:51 From Live Art Local : I will send a link to a dropbox with the chat.txt file in a follow up email after the session 14:26:27 From Live Art Local : Take the lines you've written and see if you can juggle them around into any sort of order that makes any sort of sense … you will have 5 minutes to do this... it can look like a nonsense poem, just needs to have some coherence as a piece of work 14:28:53 From Live Art Local : tweak things when you need to 14:29:57 From ABC : Do the sentences have to be short? 14:30:12 From Sarah Bower : They can be any length at the moment 14:30:16 From ABC : ok 14:31:32 From lindak : Only 6 lines 14:31:35 From lynne : yes 14:31:54 From Esther Bonner : 10 lines so far..! 14:32:10 From Live Art Local : Stopping this stage of the writing exercise.... incredibly good work to produce some work in this short period of time. Now moving on to screen share 14:34:02 From Live Art Local : a sonnet is a shape on the page as well as the actual words 14:36:26 From Live Art Local : Each set of quatrains has a different rhyme scheme 14:36:46 From Live Art Local : key thing is rhythm 14:38:01 From Live Art Local : the rhyme repeats rather than alternates in the volta, in order to reinforce the true poetic meaning of what you've written 14:41:22 From Live Art Local : we will go back to writing in a moment but first these examples 14:43:05 From marika : poor George 14:44:11 From Wendy French : I thought in traditional English sonnets the turn was at line 8 and that the couplet at the end was more of a commentary on the theme of the poem. 14:44:54 From Live Art Local : Happy to make all available via dropbox and a link 14:46:02 From Live Art Local : For the next 15 minutes you will "wrestle" with what you have written so far to make a more connected narrative and think of how you will turn it into an actual sonnet 14:46:13 From Live Art Local : it can be conventional or unconventional. 14:46:44 From Live Art Local : The most important part is to get the iambic pentameter rhythm according to Sarah, it is what really holds it together 14:47:08 From Live Art Local : do not worry massively about the rhyme if it does not come naturally to you 14:52:30 From Sarah Bower to Live Art Local(Privately) : Hi Beth, am I right to refuse to let people send me stuff? That would get very unmanageable very quickly, I think! 14:52:42 From Live Art Local : If enough people from the workshop would like to share their sonnets with each other and get peer feedback from each other while we're still living in socially distanced world we could probably facilitate that but would need people to contact us 14:53:30 From Stevie Quick : That might be an idea as otherwise there's very little point. 14:54:08 From Live Art Local to Sarah Bower(Privately) : Hi, I think it is entirely up to you, as it pf course has the potential to lead to too many people, some of our other hosts have invited people to follow them on social media etc... and send them stuff that way but I don't think they have done any in-depth critique 14:55:06 From ABC : @LIveArtLocal: Good idea - how can we organize the peer feedback, logistically? 14:55:33 From lynne : Never thought of rhythm in this way, its very difficult! 14:55:51 From Live Art Local : Please email beth@liveartlocal.co.uk if you would like to share stuff with each other and we will facilitate that whether it be via zoom or google hangouts or facebook groups 14:55:54 From Stevie Quick : I like readin stuff-don't mind sharing my email 14:56:05 From Stevie Quick : or even reading! 14:56:36 From lynne : Bulging slippery scarlet household folder … is that ti-tum x 5? 14:56:46 From Live Art Local : Also happy to sort something on our website so that people can share their writing there 14:56:55 From Stevie Quick : Yes Lynne! 14:57:03 From lynne : yay 14:57:24 From lynne : Changed red to scarlet and there it was! 14:58:08 From lynne : Yes please 14:58:13 From Elizabeth Kearney : It's going to take me a while to work out the ti tum thingy but will digest later. I have managed 14 lines and included 8 of my 14 objects so for frist time I so pleased 14:59:48 From Live Art Local : We would be happy to share your work Jack Timothy Noah 15:00:38 From Kate Brumby Ellis : absolutely fab!!!!! 15:00:47 From Arwen : Great poem! 15:00:57 From ABC : wonderful! 15:01:01 From Esther Bonner : What a super poem! 15:01:29 From Jack Timothy noah : Wonderful 15:01:32 From marika : great Eliabeth! thanks 15:02:04 From Tess : Thank you Sarah (& everyone), I need to leave now but I've enjoyed beginning to have an understanding of what a sonnet is. 15:02:15 From Kate Brumby Ellis : Stevie, excellent!!! 15:02:31 From Jack Timothy noah : Brilliant 15:02:36 From Esther Bonner : Brilliant poem Stevie! 15:02:55 From Arwen : Thanks for sharing. 15:03:02 From H : Thanks so much for a great session Sarah :) 15:03:23 From ABC : Bravo Stevie! 15:03:47 From Jack Timothy noah : Thanks for sharing 15:03:50 From Kate Brumby Ellis : genius, Eithne!!! 15:03:53 From Arwen : Lovely 15:04:12 From Esther Bonner : Gorgeous Eithne 15:04:13 From ABC : Very nice, Eithne! 15:04:15 From Wendy French : Did you say wee get the powerpoint 15:04:21 From Sue : thank you very much 15:04:24 From marika : wow Eithne and thank you Sarah 15:04:41 From ABC : Thank you so much, Sarah! This was such a wonderful session. 15:04:43 From Wilma : Thank You So Much 15:04:44 From Eithne Cullen : thanks all 15:04:44 From Live Art Local : Please check emails 15:04:45 From Arwen : Thank you so much Sarah, I really enjoyed the workshop and so pleased I wrote something. Tahnk you again! 15:04:46 From lindak : Thank you Sarah great class 15:04:47 From Kate Brumby Ellis : Thank you to those who shared, fab!!!